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1.18.2022

ASRock started to provide AMD X370 motherboards with Ryzen 5000 support - only the firmware for X370 Pro4 is supported so far

ASRock started to provide AMD X370 motherboards with Ryzen 5000 support - only the firmware for X370 Pro4 is supported so far

ASRock started to provide AMD X370 motherboards with Ryzen 5000 support - only the firmware for X370 Pro4 is supported so far

ASRock has released BIOS update for X370 Pro4 motherboard on AMD X370 chipset, which adds support for Ryzen 4000 (Renoir) and Ryzen 5000 (Vermeer) processors. It looks like AMD is really working on making motherboards with AMD 300-series chipsets compatible with current generation CPUs.

AMD keeps reiterating that adding support for new CPUs to old motherboards & ; is not an easy task. In no small part, the problem is related to the limitations of the BIOS memory where data about support for certain processors is entered. Some issues are also related to the design specifics of older motherboards & ; not all of them have effective enough power supply subsystems (VRM) to provide the declared performance level of all Ryzen 5000 processor models. In addition, older boards do not have support for some technologies, such as PCIe 4.0, which is supported by the newer CPUs. Nevertheless, some unofficial modified BIOS versions for AMD 300-series boards with partial Ryzen 5000 support have appeared earlier on the web. Some manufacturers even claimed to release official BIOS versions for these boards, but then quickly removed their announcements and updates. ASRock has released two versions of BIOS for the X370 Pro4 board, installation of which allows you to eventually use the new AMD processors on it. However, the installation process will require patience. First of all, you need to install BIOS version 7.00. It is a transitional BIOS. The company warns that before installing it on the X370 Pro4 motherboard, make sure that no Bristol Ridge series processor (AMD A-series and Athlon X4 models) is used in the system, as the new firmware has removed support for these chips.

After that, you need to install BIOS version 7.10, which adds support for Renoir and Vermeer processors. The company does not recommend installing this version of BIOS if the PC owner uses Pinnacle Ridge (Ryzen 2000 and Ryzen 2000 Pro models), Raven Ridge (Ryzen 2000G, Athlon 200 and Athlon 200 Pro) and Summit Ridge (Ryzen 1000, Ryzen 1000 Pro) processors with the X370 Pro4 board and does not plan to switch to Ryzen 4000 and Ryzen 5000 processors. New BIOS versions for X370 Pro4 board with support for AMD Renoir and Vermeer processors can be found on the official ASRock website. There you can also check the list of supported CPUs;

1.08.2022

AMD said it is working on adding Ryzen 5000 support to older boards on AMD 300-series chipsets

AMD said it is working on adding Ryzen 5000 support to older boards on AMD 300-series chipsets

AMD said it is working on adding Ryzen 5000 support to older boards on AMD 300-series chipsets

More than a year after the release of the Ryzen 5000 processors, AMD is still figuring out how to provide support for these chips on motherboards with AMD 300-series chipsets. David McAfee, vice president of product management and advertising at AMD, told this in a conversation with Tom’s Hardware.

This is one of those things we keep working on. We haven't forgotten about it, and we think that getting support for actual processors on older boards will benefit our community and ourselves. So we are trying to address this issue and are thinking about how to provide that support» & ; stated McAfee. AMD publicly commented on the issue of compatibility of the new processors with older boards shortly after some motherboard vendors took the initiative to add support for Ryzen 5000 processors for boards on AMD's youngest 300-series chipset & ; the AMD A320. However, at the moment, there is still no support for new chips on AMD X370 and B350 chipset models, which causes criticism towards AMD from its users. The issue of compatibility of new processors with old boards attracted attention almost two years ago. The company had promised to support Socket AM4 platform for five years, however, technical limitations of old motherboard models do not allow using every Ryzen series processor on any board with Socket AM4 socket. This prompted AMD to implement an original plan & ; ensure Zen 3 processors are only compatible with new boards on AMD 500-series chipsets. This decision raised a storm of indignation from both the company's fanbase and ordinary users. However, after facing this criticism, AMD has changed its mind and released support for the new CPUs on AMD 400-series chipset-based motherboards as well.

However, lack of Ryzen 5000 CPUs compatibility with AMD 300-series chipsets is still causing controversy among community over unnecessary segmentation of AM4 platform. Tom’s Hardware journalists approached David McAfee with this question during an interview that focused on AMD's new announcements at CES 2022. «I knew this question was going to be asked. Honestly, it's getting a lot of attention and discussion even within AMD. I'm not kidding. I've literally talked about this topic three times today. Not with journalists, but with AMD engineering teams. We discussed what options we have and how we can provide quality support for the 300-series boards for those users who would like to upgrade to Ryzen 5000 processors. In other words, we are definitely not ignoring this issue. We hear and understand perfectly our community's concerns about this issue. We just want to try to get it right, so this issue is still in development», & ; noted McAfee. Because of the need to support a huge number of processors for the AM4 platform, AMD is still figuring out how to get around the 16 Mbyte memory limitation of SPI ROM chips on older motherboards. These chips contain the BIOS firmware and data associated with support for a particular processor. Even on boards with more advanced AMD chipsets, equipped with more capacious BIOS memory chips, some manufacturers had to make some sacrifices. For example, in some cases, the beautiful BIOS user interface was changed to plain text-based BIOS, to save space for loading the necessary set of support data for new processors. In other cases, the support of older Socket AM4 processors was derailed. But this is only part of the problem.

This has made it very difficult to support products. We provide motherboard manufacturers with AGESA instruction packs so that they can use them to build BIOSes. Manufacturers also have the ability, outside of the AGESA protocol, to choose which processors will be supported on their motherboards. Of course, we monitor the process with our internal product compatibility engineering matrix, running tests in our lab. t the first step we still had to make & ; we had to make tough choices and determine what to load into the 16 MB SPI ROM chip and for which product combinations it would be viable to provide support. Another problem is that from the time of the first 300-series boards to the current models within the AM4 ecosystem, there have been significant changes in product features and capabilities. For example, you decide to install a Ryzen 5950X on a board that technically supports it. But will this board be able to maintain the level of performance of the processor that was put into it? The more important question here is not whether it is possible to run the processor on a particular motherboard, the whole question is & ; whether the board is capable of delivering the performance the processor is expected of it. At this point AMD's official response would be that these 300-series motherboards do not meet the requirements of our engineering compatibility matrix. There may be issues lurking here that we know nothing about at this time» & ; added McAfee. Enterprising enthusiasts, meanwhile, have already found workarounds and hacked the firmware of some AMD 300-series motherboards, adding support for Ryzen 5000 processors. However, using such product configurations voids the warranty. You should also be aware that using such combinations of processors and motherboards can lead to problems in the operation of the system based on them and even loss of data. Still, given AMD's obvious interest in this problem, there is a possibility that to some extent official support for Ryzen 5000 on older motherboards will eventually appear.

12.10.2020

AMD does not plan to support Ryzen 5000 on X370 boards, but ASRock disagrees

AMD does not plan to support Ryzen 5000 on X370 boards, but ASRock disagrees

AMD does not plan to support Ryzen 5000 on X370 boards, but ASRock disagrees

As you know, AMD decided to support Ryzen 5000 processors with Zen 3 architecture on 400-series chipsets, under public pressure, though it was not originally planned. Comments from company's representatives say that this trick won't work with the 300-series chipsets. But there are reasons to believe that ASRock will do it in its own way.

The popular Japanese blogger KOMACHI ENSAKA found out that unofficial alpha versions of BIOS P6.61 are available for ASRock X370 Taichi and X370 Professional motherboards, which provide support for Vermeer and Renoir processors. The former belong to the Ryzen 5000 family, the latter came out some time ago as part of the Ryzen 4000G family with integrated graphics. These BIOS versions are dated December 8 this year and can not be found on official ASRock website, but they are already available on some computer-related websites.

Image source: Twitter, KOMACHI ENSAKA

It is quite dangerous to flash the alpha BIOS into the motherboard you bought with your own money, that's why ASRock board owners are recommended to wait for the results of practical experiments that will not only demonstrate the compatibility of Ryzen 5000 processors with these motherboards, but also confirm that there are no serious problems with system stability. The ability of ASRock motherboard based on AMD A320 chipset to support Ryzen 5000 processors has already been proven in practice, so this precedent allows us to hope for the successful outcome of this new initiative. What is most interesting is that in their comments to Tom’s Hardware website AMD representatives confirmed that the company has no intention to officially support Ryzen 5000 processors on AMD 300 series chipset-based motherboards. So, all attempts to do so may come either from motherboard manufacturers or individual enthusiasts who modify BIOS at their own risk.